The Rapture: Determining Which Position is Right and Which is Wrong

Sometimes you read something by a pre-tribulationist and you say, “That really sounds convincing.” Then you pick up something by a mid-tribulationist and you say, “Well, that sounds good, too.” And then a little while later, you hear a post-tribulationist give a sermon and you say, “He really sounds like he’s on target, too.” How do you make up your mind as to which position is right and which position is wrong?

First of all, you must figure out what each position must prove biblically in order to demonstrate that its position is the correct one. For example, post-tribulationists say that the Rapture and the Second Advent are described in almost exactly the same way; therefore, they’re really talking about the exact same time and the exact same event. And since the Second Advent will occur at the end of the Tribulation, then the Rapture must also occur at the end of the Tribulation. Anyone who hears this will recognize the logical place to begin.

Pre, mid, and post-tribulationists need to go to those biblical passages that speak about the Second Advent and about the Rapture and try to show the following: 1.) Pre-tribulationists must show that there are enough differences between the biblical passages to show that the Bible is teaching that the Rapture is a completely different event from the Second Advent. 2.) Mid-tribulationists must show the same thing, and also show there are at least three and a half years between the Rapture and the Second Advent. 3.) Post-tribulationists must show that the biblical passages that speak about the Rapture and the ones about the Second Advent are so similar in what they are saying, that they are really talking about the exact same time and the exact same event. If the post-tribulationists can do this, then they have proved that the Rapture must occur at the Second Advent and it will occur after the Tribulation.

I believe that a careful study of the biblical passages will show that there are some significant differences between the clear Rapture passages and the clear Second Advent passages, thus demonstrating that there are two different events happening at two different times. For example, 1 Thessalonians 4, joined with John 14, teaches that when the Rapture takes place, believers will be removed from the earth in blessing to meet the Lord in the air and then taken by Jesus to the Father’s house in Heaven. Believers are removed from the earth and unbelievers are left behind. On the other hand, when you go to Matthew 24, which describes the Second Coming of Christ following the Tribulation, you have just the reverse order taught. Namely, at the Second Coming of Christ, the unbelievers are the ones removed from the earth in judgment and the believers are the ones left behind alive on the earth, who go into the Millennial Kingdom. This same order is taught in Matthew 13, 29 and 30.

Second, at the Rapture, believers are caught up to meet Christ in the air; Christ does not come all the way down to earth. But, according to Zechariah 14:4, there will be a time (the Second Coming of Christ) when His feet shall touch down upon the Mount of Olives.

Third, according to 1 Thessalonians 4:16, it is the Lord Himself who descends from Heaven and gathers believers to Himself, not the angels; whereas, in Matthew 13:49,50, Jesus plainly states, “the angels shall come forth, and take out the wicked from among the righteous, and will cast them into the furnace of fire; there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.”

Fourth, the Rapture is an imminent event, that is, it could happen at any moment; whereas, the Second Coming of Christ is not imminent but preceded by the Tribulation period, the “Abomination of Desolation” at the three and a half year point of Daniel’s Seventieth Week, and great cosmological signs which take place (according to Matthew 24:29) just before Christ visibly descends to planet Earth.

If the Rapture and the Second Coming are not two different events, then how could 1 Thessalonians 1:10 be true? There Paul said about the Thessalonian Christians, “…they had turned to God from idols to serve the living and true God and to wait for His Son from heaven, whom He raised from the dead, that is, Jesus, who delivers us from the wrath to come.” They were waiting expectantly for Christ to come at any moment.

In 1 Corinthians 16:22, Paul interjected the expression, “Maranatha,” which means, “Our Lord, Come.” Post-tribulationists should ask, “Why was Paul petitioning the Lord to come if He couldn’t come until after the Tribulation?” According to James 5:9, Christians should be careful not to complain against each other, because “Jesus the judge is standing right at the door” and could come at any moment. These and other passages reveal that Paul, the other apostles, and the early Christians all believed that Christ could come back at any moment. This shows that the Rapture must be a separate event from the Second Coming of Christ, which has definite signs that must take place before it can occur.

Other biblical truths also apply to end-time events, and these also must be explained by those who hold to a pre-tribulation rapture, a mid-tribulation rapture, or a post-tribulation rapture view.

One such biblical truth that needs to be addressed is how human beings go into the Millennial Kingdom in non-glorified bodies. Let me explain. In Revelation 20:1-10, the Thousand-Year Reign of Christ on earth is described. In verses 7-10, Satan is released at the end of that Millennial Kingdom; he’s been bound for a thousand years. At that time he goes out and deceives a number of people and leads them in one last rebellion against God.

But we need to ask, “Where did Satan get anybody to follow him?” According to 1 Thessalonians 4 and 1 Corinthians 15, at the Rapture the dead in Christ are raised and Christians who are living on earth are transformed, that is, given glorified bodies, and caught up to meet the Lord with whom they remain forever.

This presents a real problem for some of the positions. Revelation 20 says there are going to be some sinners at the end of the Millennial Kingdom. These people had to come from human parents who entered the Millennial Kingdom in natural, physical bodies, just like yours and mine, so that they could have children. Where did these people come from?

The pre-tribulation rapture view holds that the Church is raptured before Daniel’s Seventieth Week—that is, before the Tribulation; yet the gospel will still be proclaimed throughout the seven years of the Tribulation and many people will respond to Christ and be saved. Some of them are going to lose their lives during that seven-year period, but others will make it through that time. Those who make it all the way through the Tribulation period will enter the Millennial Kingdom in their non-glorified, natural, physical bodies.

There is also evidence from passages such as Zechariah 12:10 that when the Lord returns at the Second Advent, there will be a large number of Jewish people who will turn to Jesus Christ as personal Savior. They, too, will go into the Kingdom in natural bodies. They will have children who will then have other children who may not accept Christ as personal Savior and could be the ones available to follow Satan at the end of the Millennial Kingdom.

The mid-tribulation rapture position holds that the Church is raptured 3½ years into the Tribulation period, which leaves another 3½ years for other people in the Tribulation to get saved, not die, and go into the Kingdom in natural bodies.

The position that has the most trouble with this issue is the post-tribulation rapture view. It says that everyone who is saved during the Tribulation and lives to the end of it is part of the Church and will be raptured just prior to the Second Advent. But if all believers at the end of the Tribulation will be raptured and given glorified bodies, and if all unbelievers are swept away and brought to judgment by God, then no believers will be left on earth. So who will be left to go into the Millennial Kingdom in natural bodies to produce children who someday will rebel and follow Satan at the end of the Millennial Kingdom? In other words, post-tribulationists have a real problem in finding people who exist in non-glorified bodies to go into the Millennial Kingdom.

Another biblical truth that must be dealt with by all positions is the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Revelation 19:7-9 describes Christians in Heaven engaged in the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. Immediately after that event is described, Revelation 19:11 reveals the Lord riding out of Heaven with His saints at the end of the Tribulation to destroy His enemies.

Post-tribulationists say the Church goes through the Tribulation. But if Revelation 19:7 describes the Church being in Heaven before the end of the Tribulation, how did it get there? It must have been raptured. Of course, if the Church is on earth throughout the whole Tribulation period, then when was it raptured to allow enough time for the Church to be caught up into Heaven, attend the Marriage Supper of the Lamb, and then return with Christ at His Second Advent?

Mid-tribulationists have 3½ years for the Church to be in Heaven, attend the marriage feast, and then return with Christ at the Second Advent.

The pre-tribulationists have 7 years for the events surrounding the Marriage Supper of the Lamb to occur before Christians return with Christ at the end of the Tribulation, to defeat His enemies and to establish His Millennial Kingdom. But the point is that each of the different views must show that their position best fits the events described.

A third biblical truth that all sides must deal with is the Judgment Seat of Christ. This is spoken of in 1 Corinthians 3 and 2 Corinthians 5. The question is, When does this event occur and where does it occur? Does it occur during the Tribulation period? Or, does it occur during the Millennial Kingdom? The pre-tribulationist has 7 years between the Rapture and the Second Advent for the Church to be in Heaven, to be brought before the Judgment Seat of Christ, and take part in the Marriage Supper of the Lamb. The mid-tribulation rapture position has 3½ years for these events.

The position that seems to have the most trouble with this issue is, again, the post-tribulationist. The reason is, they are saying that the Church is present on earth and experiences the Tribulation for 7 years. Then the Church is raptured at the very end, and believers are caught up to meet the Lord in the air, but immediately turn around and come back to Earth with Christ as He descends at the Second Advent. Post-tribulationists thus must show that the Judgment Seat of Christ occurs in the Millennial Kingdom period. But there seems to be no evidence for that.

3 Comments

  1. John Ashcraft on May 24, 2019 at 6:39 pm

    What if the rapture was only 5 months in front of the Second Advent. For one year or less, we have the Flood, Exodus plagues, Sodom and Gomorrah at Passover Week. Tower of Babel at Pentecost week. the 7 months of Leviticus 23, Deut 24:5; Isa 34:8; Isa 61:1-2; Isa 63:4; Jhn 6:39, 40, 44, 54 where last day = last year. Psalms 118=18=2019. Revelation based on the 7 Feasts of Leviticus 23. Pentecost rapture and then 4 months until the Harvest.

  2. John Ashcraft on May 25, 2019 at 4:24 am

    Dr. William Frederick End Times Synopsis:

    1. Last 7 years begins. (Dan 9:27) (JA NOTE: 2010/2011)
    2. Seal 1: Conquering political and or religious force begins to take over the world. (Rev 6:1,2)
    3. Seal 2: World War III begins. (Rev 6: 3,4) Ps 83 War, Feb 10, 2018 on Zech 1 11th month and 24th day.
    4. Seal 3: World wide economic collapse, famine. (Rev 6:5,6)
    5. Seal 4: Plagues, death, ¼ of world’s population dies. (Rev 6:7,8)
    6. Antichrist performs abomination of desolation. (2 Thes 2:1-4) March 20-23,2013 Prior to the beginning of Passover (Matt 24:15).
    7. Ministry of 2 witnesses begins. (Rev 11:1-15)
    8. Antichrist takes over the world. (Rev 13:5-9)
    9. Seal 5: Worldwide persecution of Jews and Christians. (Rev 6: 9-11)
    10. Seal 6: Signs of the sun, moon, and stars, worldwide earthquake (Axial Poleshift: 4.0-15.0 depending upon where you live, appearance of Christ in the sky, Christians raptured (New Moon,first quarter, Full Moon, third Quarter in the month of Aviv (April), May, June or Tishrei/Sept/Oct)(3 percent of humanity), wrath of God begins. (Rev 6:12-17)
    (JA NOTE: 2010-1, 2011-1, 2012-2, 2013-2, 2014-6, 2015-9, 2016-20, 2017-40, 2018-40, 2019/5778 20, 201957719 -10; 2020-ZERO; 2021-ZERO; 2022-ZERO; 2023-ZERO)

    11. America (end times Babylon) destroyed in a nuclear holocaust. (Rev 17:16-18:24) (May of 2019)
    12. Sealing of the 144,000 (Rev 7)
    13. Seal 7: 7 Trumpet judgments. (Rev 8:1-6) Rev 8:1-4 Mist on Temple Mount on Sept 30th, 2018 on Hashana Rabbah (7th Day of Feast of Tabernacles for Final Judgment to begin for the globe).

    14. Trumpet 1: Horrific hail and fire, 1/3 of plants burned up. (Rev 8:7)15.
    Trumpet 2: Meteorite/Volcano explodes in the ocean, 1/3 ships and sea life destroyed. (Rev 8:8,9). Could it be caused by the Fukishimi accident?16.
    Trumpet 3: Comet explodes on the earth, 1/3 of fresh water poisoned, many men die. (Rev 8:10,11)17.
    Trumpet 4: 1/3 of sunlight removed. (Rev 8:12)18.
    Trumpet 5: First woe—Demon locusts, men tortured. (Rev 8:13-9:12)19.
    Trumpet 6: Second woe—Demon army, 1/3 of men die. (Rev 9:13-21)20. Ministry of 2 witnesses ended. (Rev 11:1-13)21.
    Trumpet 7: Third woe—7 Vial Judgments. (Rev 11:14-19)

    Effects from Nuclear War (WWIII)22.
    Vial 1: Boils on men. (Rev 16:1,2)23.
    Vial 2: Sea turned to blood. (Rev 16:3)24.
    Vial 3: Freshwater turned to blood. (Rev 16:4-7)25.
    Vial 4: Great heat. (Rev 16:8,9)26.
    Vial 5: Darkness. (Rev 16:10,11)27.
    Vial 6: Euphrates dries up. (Rev 16:12-1628.
    Vial 7: The Lord Jesus Christ (Oct 1, 2019) and His saints return to the earth and defeat the antichrist and his armies at Armageddon with 100-pound hailstones. Great earthquake, every island and mountain destroyed, America the Babylon sinks under the ocean. (Rev 16:17-21, Rev 18:21, Jer 51:42; Oct 10, 2019)29. Jesus is anointed as King of the World and the Millennium begins! (Rev 19′ Rev 11:15-End; Oct 15, 2019)

  3. Larry Hill on June 9, 2021 at 3:50 pm

    In your comment about 1 Thessalonians 1:10 could not be true if they were looking for Jesus’s return in that day. What will you do with 2 thess.2:1-4 where Paul says what must happen before the day of the lord?

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