Contradictions between the Book of Mormon and the Holy Bible

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Many people believe the Mormon Church is simply a “denomination” or group within Christianity. However, a close look at its key book, the Book of Mormon, reveals many concerning contradictions between its teachings and the Bible.

The first concern to consider is its declaration that the Book of Mormon is “Another Testament of Jesus Christ.” A testament is a contract or covenant or will. If the founder of the Mormon Church is implying that Jesus left two wills for His one death, then that would pose a termendous problem.

A second contradiction goes to the very premise and foundation that the Mormon religion hinges upon. The Book of Mormon makes extra-biblical claims that are contrary to both Scripture and history. Joseph Smith claimed that in the time Jeremiah prophesied in Jerusalem around 600 B.C., there was another prophet named Lehi who supposedly heard from God. Lehi allegedly saw a vision of angels who gave him a book in which he read of the destruction of Jerusalem and many of the inhabitants, and the carrying away of many into Babylon.

Lehi supposedly prophesied these things in Jerusalem and angered the people who sought to take his life. God commanded Lehi to take his family into the wilderness near the Red Sea. This is recorded in the Book of Mormon, 1 Nephi 1:1-2:7 and 2:19-20.

God speaks to the son of Lehi, named Nephi, telling him that He has “prepared a land of promise for him, which is choice above all other lands,” referring to the United States. In chapter 3:17-18 of 1 Nephi, when God sends Nephi and his two brothers back into Jerusalem to retrieve “plates of brass” engraved with history of the Jewish people up to the time they are now in, Nephi speaks to his brothers about their father leaving Jerusalem.

The contradiction that this poses to the Holy Bible is that in this time the counsel and Word of God was that all nations were to submit to the King of Babylon. Jeremiah 27:5-8 notes:

With my great power and outstretched arm I made the earth and its people and the animals that are on it, and I give it to anyone I please. Now I will give all your countries into the hands of my servant Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon; I will make even the wild animals subject to him. All nations will serve him and his son and his grandson until the time for his land comes; then many nations and great kings will subjugate him.

If, however, any nation or kingdom will not serve Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon or bow its neck under his yoke, I will punish that nation with the sword, famine and plague, declares the Lord, until I destroy it by his hand.

Jeremiah prophesied this throughout the nation, and especially to King Zedekiah. He even prophesied it to the nations of the earth by way of messengers from those nations. Jeremiah also prophesied against false prophets, diviners, dreamers and others who were lying to the people so that they would not follow the counsel of God (vv. 9-15).

Joseph Smith claimed that Lehi received a word from God through a dream, to take his people, then to others into the wilderness. Then his son Nephi received a word to go to this new Promised Land (America). There is no biblical record, nor mainstream historical record of any Lehi prophesying in that time and place.

In Joseph Smith’s use of the Bible, he unwittingly build up his characters in the Book of Mormon, giving them revelation that God in his wisdom ordained should be hidden until its fullness of time. In the Book of Mormon, 2 Nephi 2:8-9; 25:12-13, Mosiah 3:5-12; 16:6-8, Jacob 7:12, and 1 Nephi 2:4, and especially Mosiah 27:24-25 where one of Joseph Smith’s characters, Alma, states that he has been “redeemed” and “born of the Spirit,” long before Jesus, whose spirit we are to be born of, actually died. Over 500 years before Christ died on the cross and was resurrected, Joseph Smith’s characters from the Book of Mormon were supposedly preaching and writing about Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection, and about being baptized in Jesus’ name and receiving the Holy Ghost.

The Mormon Church’s teachings may quote from the Bible and include some similar Christian elements, yet are clearly different from traditional, biblical Christianity. The Mormon Church is not Christian; its testament and teachings clearly reflect a unique version of beliefs that stand at odds with biblical teachings.

Tony Van Brown is the author of Saving the Latter Day Saints from which this article is adapted. For more information about Tony and his ministry, contact him at [email protected].

47 Comments

  1. Anna Abed on September 21, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    You are absolutely correct. Mormonism is very different from Christianity.

    • a on December 6, 2015 at 10:33 pm

      type: termendous

  2. David G on October 9, 2015 at 12:29 pm

    termendous? tremendous!
    He unwittingly build?…built
    Some editing missing it seems.
    I like the good contact I get with your online operation.
    I did try to get the “Ready With An Answer” download but it does not come. There is SO MUCH stuff…good perspective, I aim to get a lot!
    Yes I watched much of the show from yesterday.

  3. Daniel on October 11, 2015 at 2:08 pm

    Hello,

    I was thinking about six months ago to write about Church of Mormon. Unfortunately, I had no time and no resources, until now! Thanks to the your important work, I will start a blog, in Romanian language, on that subject! Concerning your article, I think it is very useful and, for this reason, I will translate it in Romanian, because the Romanian people must know the truth! And when I say that, I refer, especially, to those who are blinded by the Mormon lie!

    Thank you, Dr. John Ankerberg!

    Praise God!

    Daniel

  4. Barbara Sparks on October 14, 2015 at 6:35 pm

    I think your educating people on what the Mormon religion really stands for is a very good thing, thank you. I didn’t know too much about it but I did know it was not another version of Christianity, not even a shirt tail relative.

  5. Curtis Gill on October 15, 2015 at 1:02 pm

    Greetings my brethren in Christ. It is such a deceptive teaching,that Jesus would give yet another testament(the book of mormon)as if to imply that the new testament which is given thru his blood and confirmed in the 27 books of the mew testament,in the bible,was not sufficient. It is also so terrifying to think that “alma” would claim a redemptive experience,500 years before the death of Christ on calvary. This article and its contents are amazing and i know that christians will be more able to expose the falsehood of the mormon religion. Thanks so much for this information. Sincerely urs in Christ,Pastor-Curtis Gill.

    • Miguel on January 15, 2023 at 8:40 pm

      God has always revealed things of spiritual significance through multiple witnesses. (2 Cor. 13:1) This practice was even built into the legal system of the Law of Moses. (Deut. 19:15) So, why, when it comes to testaments of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ–the central figure of our eternal salvation–would God provide us with only two testaments? Why not have a third? A fourth? A FIFTIETH testament of such a wondrous figure and supernal doctrine? My testimony to you is that he has: The Book of Mormon.

      The Book of Mormon is another testimony of the divine calling, faithful mission and all-encompassing atonement of Jesus Christ. Why any Christian would reject out of hand, on the second-hand advice of another or with only superficial investigation, something that boldly claims to be another testament of the Son of God is astounding to me. You would think that any Christian would be overjoyed to come upon something that purports to be another testimony of his Lord and Savior. Sadly, this is sometimes not the case.

      Instead of taking the time to read this book, ponder it, study it at length and, above all, to pray to God about the veracity of it, some refuse. They won’t “come and see.” They are like old wine skins, or the Pharisees and Sadducees, that couldn’t countenance actually hearing from God again, be that from John the Baptist or from the One for whom he straightened the path. To such people hearing again from God and thereby having additional scripture, restoration of lost doctrines and ordinances and the possible loss of their religious pre-eminence and livelihood, is quite threatening. No wonder there is such resistance here, and in other places in long-established Christendom. There is much to lose. But, there is even more to gain. Get a copy. Read it at length. Become an expert yourself on its teachings. Prove it (as we should all things) and hold it fast if it is good. (1 Thess. 5:21) Or at the very least, muster the wisdom of the High Priest Gamaliel, who, when faced with Jerusalem’s jewish leadership’s blood-thirsty desire to kill Jesus, advised them to stand down for, ” …if this work be of men, it will come to nought: But if it be of God, ye cannot overthrow it; lest haply ye be found even to fight against God.” This is wisdom. If you won’t investigate the veracity of the Book of Mormon wholeheartedly, at least don’t fight ignorantly against it, lest it be from God and you be found to be warring against Him.

      P.S.- Mr. Brown, if you find it blasphemous that the great prophet Alma from the Book of Mormon experienced the redeeming effects of the atonement in the new world some 500 years before it was accomplished by Jesus in the old world, perhaps you also have a problem with the great prophet Isaiah who, some SEVEN HUNDRED years prior to Christ’s birth, experienced that his, “wickedness was removed and his sin was atoned for.” (Isa 6:7)

      • Ayden on February 19, 2023 at 11:59 am

        “I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this scroll: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to that person the plagues described in this scroll. And if anyone takes words away from this scroll of prophecy, God will take away from that person any share in the tree of life and in the Holy City, which are described in this scroll.”
        ‭‭Revelation‬ ‭22‬:‭18‬-‭19‬ ‭NIV‬‬

      • Chad on April 7, 2023 at 5:34 pm

        You can reject the book of mormon because you preach a different Jesus than the Bible

  6. Greg Hackbarth on October 30, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    A wonderful resource for Christians who are confronted with the belief that “Mormons are Christians,” as we were when Mitt Romney was running for president. The same education is necessary when confronted with Islam (I downloaded your chart comparing Islam with Christianity). Your ministry is a shining example of equipping the saints to “earnestly contend for the faith.” God bless you! Greg Hackbarth, Rockford IL

    • Vincenzo Lucceta on June 30, 2017 at 4:22 am

      ya obama was a much better choice! than the DEVIL MORMON ROMNEY!! well at least we have our playboy posing, pussy grabbing savior !! DONALD TRUMP!! now theres a man called by God.
      coman sense in america is Dead and your not convincing me other wise. so if you want to belive that obama was a better choice, becuase you thought you saw horns growing out of romneys head. (THANK YOU SO MUCH, IM SO HAPPY THAT ALL THE CHRISTIAN SAYED HOME, CAUSE IT;S NOT LIKE THEY KNEW THAT GAY MARRAGE WAS WHAT THEY GOT WHEN THEY STAYED HOME AND DIEDNT VOTE. oh and on a more seriouse not who rebuilt the temple after the babylonian captivity? it wasent a jew! it was syrus king of persia!, ya a dirty gentile! ya he said that god told him to letthe jews og bacj to jerusalem and build the temple. RANT!!!!!!!!!!!

  7. Trish on November 7, 2015 at 10:29 am

    Hello Dr.Ankerberg,

    Thank so much for your web link and sending Christianity vs Islam Chart. And yes, I have been watching your videos and reading some of your articles you have posted on your web page. It’s always a pleasure to learn and be equip to learn the real truth about the Word of God. Thank you again.

    -Trish

  8. Donna on December 9, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    Mormonism is NOT Christian. The “Another Testament” is extra biblical” the big red flag. God’s word is complete in the 66 books contained in the Bible and anything added is heretical .
    Love your ministry. God Bless You!

    • Vincenzo Lucceta on June 30, 2017 at 4:14 am

      Realy!? thats your slogan. 66 books that it!? you do know there are more books that the 66 in a king james bible right? you know that jesus quoted right out of the book of enoch. Guess what the book of enoch was not in your 66 book bible. you better get on your knees tell the man up stairs. “you wrong jesus thats not in my bible, Dont you be adding things to my bible!. hell there is a hole bunch more! but what do i know it’s not like i was at the nicene creed councel way back in the day, when they VOTED! on what books would be in the bible. ya voting thats a great way to pick the truth. every four years in america everyone gets together and votes.guess what usally happens, some one wins, barley. the whole thing is similar to the vote for the books of the bible. the only ones that were put into the bible was the books that were able to make it past 51% so when you die and you see thouse 49% who tried to get other books in your “66”page, you better tell them to go to hell!

    • Steve Duncan on July 23, 2023 at 6:15 pm

      So how many Books does the Catholic Bible contain? It is extra biblical and heretical! So you do not accept those books that are not in your Bible? Please explain to all Catholics.

  9. Luisa Rodriguez on December 23, 2015 at 12:00 am

    Very informative article. I have never had an interest of reading the book of Mormon because I know is not from our Lord and this article has given me some verses from this false book that I can present to Mormons and ask them to explain them to me and start a conversation that can lead them to find the truth that our God and Lord left in His Holy Word, the Bible. Thanks for sharing this information and let’s pray yg as y we would share the Word of our Lord with boldness, in the name of Jesus our Lord, amen.

    • Vincenzo Lucceta on June 30, 2017 at 4:02 am

      is this the same God who let the catholic church essential rape the bible for ever. you know at least the mormons are willing to admit the bible has been changed. you may not like there book, but at least thous guys relay on the idea that a man can be like moses and get some knolage from the man upstairs, and not have to look through a old book that no one even tried to get fixed. God still upstairs guys i can see the lights on! if your going to make the” bible is all I nead claim”, at least ask him to fix it. that what moses would do.

    • Steve Duncan on July 23, 2023 at 6:27 pm

      the Book of Mormon has chapter 31, with 21 verses explaining why our Savior being perfect was baptized. Send me the reference concerning the doctrine of Christ as the Bible explains why the Son of Man was baptized. [email protected]. Thx

  10. Herbert Uba on December 29, 2015 at 6:49 am

    Interesting much! Just to add on a perspective or two, The Latter Day Saints claim exclusivity. This has so many implications including the hopeless differences between them and other denominations.

    I had a chance to talk to a missionary of Latter Day Saints and I asked him if they baptise the dead, something which I had read somewhere. He went on to explain how a verse in 1Peter, or second(I’m not sure), supports this.

    • Vincenzo Lucceta on June 30, 2017 at 3:56 am

      so you know there was this time period called the dark ages. Did hella crap for the bible. lots of things were lost, lots of stuff were changed. the truth is, inless you are getting knolage like moses did, strait from the man upstairs himself, you are going to get screwed. get on your knees and ask God for the awnser. not a bunch of faceless nobodys on the internet. you know what this joe smith guy everyone is talking about, he at least understood what ya got ta do. pray search and yea shall find.

      • don on August 16, 2017 at 3:26 pm

        Vincenzo, You do err not knowing your scriptures. Baptism for the dead is 180 degrees from teachings in the BOM. SHOW ME, in the BOM. There is no repentance after deaths is just one of the false teachings, this is clearly stated in the BOM.
        The LDS church has totally abandoned the teachings in the BOM.
        [email protected]

        • don on August 16, 2017 at 4:07 pm

          There is no repentance after deaths is just one of the false teachings, this is clearly stated in the BOM.
          I should have written : There is no repentance after death, this is clearly stated in the BOM. Baptism for the dead is a false teaching. At death we either are cast into hell or go to paradise. Both are where one awaits the final judgment. There is NO repentance after death, READ you BOM.

  11. George Stefan on January 11, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    Did Jesus die on a Friday? Jesus said as Joanah spent 3 days &3 nights in the belly of the whale so shall the son of man spend 3 days & 3 nights in the grave.Friday, Saturday,Sunday 3 days.Where are the three nights? Answer: Jesus was crucfied on a thursday had to be taken off the cross, because Friday the next day was a” Special Sabbath.” and saturday was the regular sabbath.Thursday night,Friday night, saturday night.(3) the Jews had many days through the week that they called “Special Sabbaths.”
    Do you agree?

  12. David Fairfield on January 15, 2016 at 12:24 pm

    I agree. sounds like the same old Satanic lie adding to what God already said.

  13. Felix E.Okhuevbie on January 18, 2016 at 9:03 am

    Thank you for educating materials as these to me. I wish that it reach many people

  14. Anthony Romo on January 18, 2016 at 10:58 am

    Valuable article. The contradictions between Mormonism and Christianity
    are actually so numerous that it’s crucial to know the orthodox Bible so well one can recognize error.

    • Vincenzo Lucceta on June 30, 2017 at 3:46 am

      oh great another scholar! I thought we were taught “in the bible” to discern by the spirit, not by knowledge. you know all those dude in the bible were either taught by angels, had vision, or saw God. I think it is time for us to open our minds and think out side the box and realize that we are no diff than them, we should be able to have a vision too, see a angel, feel the holy spirit , or even see God. You may not think Joe smith is right, but at least the guy understood that to truly have wisdom you have to go to the source. THE BIG MAN UPSTAIRS!

  15. Anthony L Turner on January 18, 2016 at 8:10 pm

    Thanks for this article contrasting Christianity and Mormonism.

    It was very helpful and informative so that we can respond when the Mormons arrive at our door this summer and know what they expect.

    Thanks much for all you do for Christ our Lord.

    • Vincenzo Lucceta on June 30, 2017 at 3:38 am

      well it’s nice that you have some things to say when they come to your door. Thou it would be nice if mabye you could go and knock on there doors and tell them instead. you may be right, but there the ones making the effort. brownie points for mormon boys check one,Browni points for antony?

  16. maria on January 25, 2016 at 3:09 am

    thanks bro.john 4 the info about the mormonism..God gave us the discerning sprit which to believe.just focus on Jesus Christ(Him crucified)have faith and trust on Him,then the victory is ours…i just want to ask about the food and other food supplement that we buy i’v notice there was trade mark on it Halal means, Islamic food nutrition council in america..what can you say about it..should we stop patronizing it? its all over the world now..

  17. MAT55 on February 1, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    The God of Abrahham,Isiac and Jacob the tryune God, 1) God the Father 2) God the Son 3) The Holy Spirit are One . No one comes the the Father except through Jesus Christ Period, JESUS IS THE ONLY WAY IN JESUS NAME AMEN.

    • Vincenzo Lucceta on June 30, 2017 at 3:35 am

      I LIKE ICE CREAM!!!!! ( now that’s how you do a random comment!)

  18. Toton Suryotono on February 20, 2016 at 10:11 am

    Creed (Syahadat)

    Tahukah anda bahwa Islamic Creed (Syahadat Islam) disebut The Most Important Commandement dalam Injil dan merupakan bagian pertama dari The Tenth Commandement.

    Mark 12:28-34New International Version (NIV)
    The Greatest Commandment

    28 One of the teachers of the law came and heard them debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important?”

    29 “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.[a]

    30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[b]

    31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[c] There is no commandment greater than these.”

    32 “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him.

    33 To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

    34 When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions

    Exodus 20:1-3 – Then God gave the people all these instructions: “I am the Lord your God, who rescued you from the land of Egypt, the place of your slavery. “You must not have any other god but me.” (NLT)

    The 10 Commandments List in Exodus 20:2-17
    1. “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before Me.
    2. “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.
    3. “You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain, for the LORD will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.
    4. “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. Six days you shall labor and do all your work, but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. For in six days the LORD made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the LORD blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.
    5. “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the LORD your God is giving you.
    6. “You shall not murder.
    7. “You shall not commit adultery.
    8. “You shall not steal.
    9. “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.
    10. “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

    Sehingga pesan Muhammad kepada Kaisar Heraclius pun merujuk Qur’an: 3:64:

    “O People of the Scriptures! Come to a word common to you and us that we worship none but Allah and that we associate nothing in worship with Him, and that none of us shall take others as Lords beside Allah. Then if they turn away, say: Bear witness that we are Muslims (those who have surrendered to Allah).

    Islam believe that “there is no other gods but He” was commandement to all religion. But most religion choose other gods beside God Annualy in Mecca during pilgrim season, the biggest internasional meeting always held ti declare again and again “no other gods but God” Islamic creed, truly our creed, the main creed of all religion, before they take anothe gods for worship.

    The Most Important Commandement

    Mark 12:34 When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any question

    • Chel on January 11, 2024 at 1:32 pm

      GALATIANS 1:8-15

    • Chel on January 11, 2024 at 1:37 pm

      2 John 1:10-11 KJV
      If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: for he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

  19. Rachel on March 7, 2016 at 5:50 pm

    I always believed Mormonism is a cult! Thank you for explaining Mormon faith and christianity. God bless you for all the work you do for the Lord. I believe besides Christianity everything else is satanic!

    • Vincenzo Lucceta on June 30, 2017 at 3:34 am

      well the problem with thinking that is this. When Jesus puts his foot on the mount at the second coming, who is it that he saves? — a bunch of Jews!!! cant be satanic, obviously not 100% true either. hmmmm . if the Jews who rejected christ, are saved by christ, then why cant some mormans who belive in christ be saved by christ?

  20. Jerry Worrell on March 13, 2017 at 7:37 am

    A couple of points to make. The first is that the font on the responses here is kind of hard to read. Could you remove the “bold” text or whatever makes the letters run together?

    Next, I would love to talk to Tony Brown in person and tell him of my conversion experience to “Mormonism” from being a former Southern Baptist. Simply no room here to do that. I used to think the contradictions between the Holy Bible and the Book of Mormon were profound too. The Holy Spirit has convinced me otherwise.

    As for the Holy Bible, we Mormons believe it to be the Word of God. We do not believe the interpretation of it or even the simple understanding of what it says by every person out there is accurate. For those of you who believe the Bible, as you see it in all its many versions, translations and editions out there, is always infallible in its interpretations, please consider this: Can you name the people who transcribed and translated the books of the Bible from their original texts into the language you now speak? Who were they? What were their beliefs? Was any of what they transcribed edited by someone who formulated a certain religious belief about the text that varied from the intent of the original writer of that text?

    Certainly, almost all of us have problem doing this very thing, don’t we? We read some verse from Isaiah that says so-and-so did this or God did that, and the language is hard to follow for us to understand what was meant, so we look for some opinion of a Biblical scholar that says, “the original Hebrew means this”, or “the original Greek means such”. How do we know that what they are saying is accurate when they honestly don’t have the original text that Moses wrote or Paul or James or whomever the author of the writing actually was? And what about those unnamed, unknown scribes or priests or whomever copied or translated the original writings all those years ago into Greek or Latin or some “modern” language? Did they get it perfectly right only to have us become confused about what is written in the King James English version of the Bible, much less the King James version translated into Portuguese or Swahili or whatever?

    Remember, you are betting your immortal soul on the fact that the only God-approved version of what He has ever authorized to be said to mankind as scripture was compiled and put together into the Holy Bible as it now exists in 2017 is 100% accurate, infallible and without the slightest error, right? Why would God allow His Word to be mistranslated or misunderstood due to human error or simple misunderstanding of various human languages? That simply can’t happen, right?

    We, the Mormons (actually, we are The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints) believe that God, the Eternal Father, would not allow the mistranslation problems with His Word to continue forever. We believe that God has re-introduced very specific servants with His authority and the spiritual knowledge to fix misinterpretations of His Word in the Holy Bible. These servants are called Prophets, Seers and Revelators. These men do not assume their authority to speak on behalf of God as so many preachers, evangelists and “scholars” have done when it comes to what the scriptures meant or didn’t mean. They are authorized by the Lord to do so.

    For additional answers to questions on this topic and more, please refrain from getting answers from ex-Mormons (who have an axe to grind) or preachers who don’t really have the foggiest idea what they are talking about. All they are doing is fighting against the Lord and their fellow believers. Call some LDS missionaries to your home and they will be glad to talk to you about what we believe and why we believe it. It is that easy. Thanks for the forum and hearing me out on this topic.

    • Alysann Collotzi on June 19, 2017 at 2:59 am

      Thank you for taking the time to write such a thorough and well-thought out response. I am an active member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. I feel grateful that you have represented us so well and respectfully.

  21. Brandon Bowen on June 15, 2017 at 5:43 pm

    I like how people can say your a Christian but want to talk bad about the mormans have a guy work we started talking about churches and ended up telling I was morman we had a lot in common but after that he was running his mouth I just feel believe in what you feel is true but why bring down one person for believing in that church

  22. Vincenzo Lucceta on June 30, 2017 at 3:25 am

    Here is some things I would improve.
    1. you defined a Latin word( testament) with a modern english understanding. that’s a bad choice, the english used at the publishing of the book of mormon is the proper Definition ( which is to make a witness).
    2. You said that all nations would have to submit to Babylon. this event did happen but your saying that a nation and a small group of people are the same thing. the problem with that is we know that many of the 10 tribes that were scattered by the lord were well past the reaches of king neb. ( simple case also is that Rome was doing very well for it’s self and was easily out side the reach of babylon, and much stronger if confronted by king neb) as we see in this case we must remember who this scriptures audience is.( the wicked at Jerusalem.) so this lehi fellow is first not a nation but a small fam, and he is also leaving before the law was enforce apon Jerusalem, so would also not be subject to a man with a big stick, but to a man with a big stick :God: ( another reference would be to point out what happened to Jeremiah( he was released by king neb and safely left the reaches of babylon))also the claim that there is no record of a man named Lehi is not a very good case.(I don’t feel like i should have to explain that one.
    3.now your speil about this Alma guy was your best yet. The only problem was the verses that you referenced, would agree with you on there own. but the problem is that each verse is actualy a sentence so you have to read the whole chapter. so after reading the chapter in full it is not talking about gift of the holy spirt like on the day of pentacost. what it is refering to is this 🙁 Mosiah chapter 27:25 And the Lord said unto me: Marvel not that all mankind, yea, men and women, all nations, kindreds, tongues and people, ——–
    must be born again; yea, born of God, changed from their carnal and fallen state, to a state of righteousness, ( see this is clearly talking about turning away from sin, and getting on a path towards God.
    ———-being redeemed of God, becoming his sons and daughters;
    ( if it is refering to baptisim, there is not much of a case there because there is good historic evidences of babtisim before Christ. not to mention john the baptist in the new testament, baptizing ( there are a few thing else that i could mention on this if you want but this ^^^^^ is getting long.)

    also this term “traditional christianity” not sure what you mean there, are you talking about christ church in new testament times? Nicene creed? catholic? or post reformation?

    Would like to see more stuff from you.
    Thanks: Vincenzo Luccetta

  23. Donatella on August 2, 2017 at 1:03 am

    “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtlety, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. For if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have no preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him.”

    Claiming that there is another message is demonic.

    Also, I find your language exceedingly diplomatic, and I’m not sure why you took that approach. If a person claims to believe in Jesus but think there is some other message, some other testament, God must be a liar, which means in essence that there is no God, because God cannot be fallible. It is simply unbelief.

  24. Luke on February 22, 2018 at 2:26 pm

    Wouldn’t God have told us in the bible that oops sorry I forgot to tell you there is a second message that I just didn’t teach.

    • joanofark06 on October 5, 2019 at 11:25 am

      That’s satan’s job!

  25. Adrian on September 21, 2022 at 8:28 pm

    I have prayed and prayed and prayed about the book of mormon and all i can hear is yes yes yes from the holy spirit!
    Also christians who actually believe in Christ are supposed to stick together not tear eachother down
    Us Mormons are christians too we believe the same you do that Christ died and got resurrected on the third day.
    I hope this will give you guys some insight.
    Jesus taught to love one another
    lets start doing that!

  26. james wiliams on April 14, 2023 at 2:34 am

    God bless you my friend and thank you you may have SAVED lives… many lives!

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